Jess: So that you just blew up on Instagram by making , by making vitamin posts which are very relatable and in addition to humorous, right? Yeah. Um, and your posts have a message and specific, notably, you focus on intuitive consuming and successfully being at each dimension.
So I am questioning, did you at all times view vitamin by this lens? And if not, what made it change for you?
Shana: Yeah. So no, I didn’t at all times view, um, vitamin like that. I used to be very heaps, um, I suppose you in all probability can say I reformed the best means, the best means I assumed for certain. Like I grew to develop right into a dietician in 2018, like I used to work in sample.
Um, and so I used to be very heaps with that weight centric lens and all concerning the diets and, you already know, merely eat further healthful, like all. You discover, all that stuff that I focus on now. And so I did not even discover out about Intuitive consuming till I went to fci. Um, that yr. It was like in Philly. Um, after which that they’d been giving the discuss and I take into consideration pondering, what’s intuitive consuming?
After which I actually really feel it was merely one issue merely clicked right? And I. I used to be merely, I do not even take into consideration precisely what it was, nonetheless I take into consideration it being very relatable and rethinking the entire objects that I merely discovered in class. And likewise discovering out anti-D weight discount plan, like one among my coworkers. So I work, um, for public successfully being and one among my coworkers.
Really advisable anti-D weight discount plan. And that, I actually really feel that was the change. That is as quickly as I observed, oh, in all probability I did not analysis the entire objects. Possibly I must rethink some factors. And that is type of as quickly as I started shifting. Um, cuz I at all times inform individuals for people who scroll down, like all the best means down, like I do know I’ve quite a lot of posts, nevertheless when, for people who begin all the best means initially, you in all probability can see the place I used to be like telling, you already know, I wasn.
about fad diets, nonetheless I used to be positively with that. Oh yeah. It is merely very simple to eat healthful. Similar to I do not, I do not even know what I used to be posting, nevertheless it completely positively wasn’t what I used to be saying now, . Yeah. And I protect these up on goal on account of I inform individuals it is a change. Like all of us do not begin, you already know, merely popping out of the womb being, you already know, intuitive consuming , so Yeah.
Jess: Yeah, for certain. Mm-hmm. , an equivalent, an equivalent, an equivalent, an equivalent. Um, observe up query to that. You, like I acknowledged, you, you blew up on the
Shana: gram . I dunno how that, I dunno. by the best means, like, yeah, like, do you get trolls or like, oh my gosh. How, how is it being, it is ridiculous. , it is, correctly, what I do act, what I began doing is limiting my options.
Um, oh, so with a goal to remark, you need to observe , which I do know, which sounds so, so good. You discover, and I am all about having a dialogue and dialogue, nonetheless sadly it is type of essential. Um, and I do not depend on everybody to agree with me. Like I observe individuals. I do not agree with 100% of the time, nonetheless I actually really feel.
That actually positively stops, equivalent to the trolls and the people who uncover themselves merely trying to find to wreck your day, you already know? Yeah. And, um, on account of I, like, I, it is merely me managing. I’ve not purchased like a social media supervisor or one factor like that, so it form of helps me. Type of protect the options in line, on account of what I uncover is individuals furthermore wish to go after individuals who furthermore remark.
So it isn’t merely me. It is like, oh, they’re, they begin commenting on fully totally different options. I am like, okay, this needs stuff. Oh, . So I merely prohibit the options and I do not care. It, it truly works for me. . Um, I do know individuals suppose that’s type of a cop out. I, I don’t care. Um, it is, I do not suppose so in the slightest degree. I actually really feel it is
Wendy: preserving your sanity, on account of I actually really feel furthermore with these like threads, they form of take a lifetime of their very private after which Oh yeah.
You log off for 5 minutes and as well as you come as soon as extra
Shana: and actually 5 minutes. Yeah.
Wendy: It is like there’s like monsters which have been created, you already know? Yeah. With contained within the span of some
Shana: minutes. In order that’s
Wendy: a vital thought
Shana: truly. Yeah, that could be a glorious thought. It is merely, it helps. Yeah. And it, it is, it isn’t a brilliant reply cuz in actuality individuals will merely observe, merely to remark, nevertheless it completely positively helps on account of not many individuals do
In order that’s, that is type of the reply that I’ve. Yeah. Do
Jess: you now, on account of I do know you talked about you might be employed in public successfully being and I’ve seen in your web internet web page that you just merely talked about that as correctly. Do you proceed to work in public successfully being and have this thriving
Shana: account? Sure. Sure. I work full-time. Yeah, I’ve like a 9 to 5.
Um, I work for the Division of Successfully being truly. Oh,
Wendy: that is how Jess and I, uh, first began. Yeah. Had began, yeah. Like 10 years beforehand or one issue.
Shana: The place are you guys? Um, what’s that program? The Stellar Market? Yeah. I noticed one issue. Yeah, I did that furthermore. Oh my God.
Jess: It is like everybody began in Stellar .
Shana: Yeah,
So, um, so now I merely work for, eat, correctly play exhausting, nonetheless, um, oh, good. Okay. Sure. So I nonetheless work for Division of Successfully being, public Successfully being, um, which is why I am at all times speaking about like social determinants of successfully being and all these factors. Yeah. Due to it is close to and costly to my coronary coronary coronary heart, good. Incredible. However. . Mm-hmm. . I like that.
Accurately,
Wendy: at present we’re gonna be speaking about processed meals and as well as you wrote this glorious article. Wanna break it down only a bit bit? So let’s begin by speaking about what processed meals
Shana: are. Set off I actually really feel there’s quite a lot of confusion. Um
Wendy: mm-hmm. , there’s various kinds of processed meals. Um, should we make distinctions?
Inform us only a bit bit additional concerning the.
Shana: Constructive. So I actually really feel that there is at all times, um, confusion merely on account of means it’s offered all through the media. It, you already know, the media, um, each time we’re speaking about articles and even merely, you already know, of us writing posts or no matter they’re. , they’re scare strategies, right? That is the means it grabs anybody’s consideration.
So even one issue well-meaning, you already know, saying, correctly, optimistic, we wish individuals to eat healthful. We want individuals to be the healthiest they’re normally. It may type of be misconstrued into, oh my gosh, this. , these meals are horrible, they’re poisonous and likewise you already know, they’re, they use language akin to that. And my hope is solely to level those who optimistic, there are totally fully totally different ranges of processed meals, nonetheless that does not counsel that we have now now now to demonize these meals and they also do not must be scary.
Um, I actually really feel. . There’s furthermore, cuz I am, I am not a meals scientist myself, nonetheless I wish to observe meals scientists on account of that is their job, . And I actually really feel that is, it is vital to know the place you is perhaps getting your data from. Um, on account of like I discussed earlier than, I wasn’t at all times on this realm of pondering. I used to be, I used to be a sort of those who was afraid of like, I don’t know, crimson dye, you already know, quantity 4 and, you already know, all of these factors.
I, myself was like, why is that this in our meals? After which I began. discovering out and absorbing the info and realizing, wait a second, it isn’t all scary. Um, you already know, and in order that’s, that is the explanation I write heaps about processed meals. I encourage of us to have a look at individuals, um, who’re on this subject as heaps as attainable.
However processed meals are primarily any meals that has been. , um, dealt with, right? Even when it is our produce, like even when it is our pure produce which can have, um, one issue on it with a goal to defend it or so long as it is dealt with, that is what we establish processed. Um, in addition to you is maybe, and I at all times use this event, in addition to you go to an apple orchard, decide the apple and eat it right there, your meals is processed, right?
So, , which you’ll not, they’re totally fully totally different. Wanna do,
Wendy: I wrote an article about that cuz there could also be possibly, you already know Right. VCs on there. So
Shana: Yeah. It is side observe, it is and that is, yeah. Accurately, and that is the explanation we processed the meals, right. To make it protected, to make it, um, and together with get off like, inedible components, like all these items that’s a part of meals processing.
And um, that is, that is type of why I, I wished to put in writing the article, why I at all times focus on it, on account after all of does not must be a scary phrase, . Um, and we made it a scary phrase. And optimistic, there are differing types. There’s minimally processed, right, which is the produce. Um, after which there’s terribly. Terribly processed.
Um, which I actually really feel now people are beginning to say, okay, that is the scary one. Like that is what we’re gonna take into accounts. However even then you need to understand like, oat milk is very processed, right? Our tofu or meat alternate decisions, for people who’re vegan in any other case you already know, not vegan, for people who’re utilizing that, that’s terribly course of.
These are nonetheless nourishing meals. They’re nonetheless offering dietary nutritional vitamins, nonetheless they’re nonetheless terribly processed so we’d not must make use of these scary phrases. Um, in order that’s my hope. Um, that was quite a lot of rambling, nonetheless that is complete like what my intention is each time I am speaking about this topic for. ,
Jess: yeah. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. That makes quite a lot of sense.
Mm-hmm. , what do you say to people who uncover themselves like, correctly, oat milk is very processed, nevertheless it completely’s glorious. Mm-hmm. , nonetheless having, uh, what’s one issue, I dunno, like a twinky, like that is totally fully totally different. Like, do you would probably have any ideas on that?
Shana: Yeah, and I at all times say they don’t seem to be the an equivalent and, and nobody is saying they’re the an equivalent.
You discover, like I actually really feel all through the article, Um, what meals did I take a look at? I actually really feel it was like a can of soda and like oat milk or one issue like that. And nobody is saying that these two are the an equivalent sorts of meals. They don’t seem to be offering the an equivalent dietary nutritional vitamins in the slightest degree. However on the an equivalent time, we merely must cease utilizing terribly course of as a scare tactic.
Yeah. Um, and I actually really feel that even with soda, am I recommending it’s, you already know, must you drink it day-to-day for each. . No, I, I don’t counsel that as a dietician. Um, furthermore like we take into accounts our tooth, right? Not a dentist, nonetheless that is one challenge. However it’s, everytime you give attention to it, soda is offering, um, sugar, right?
And sugar. We furthermore demonize, nonetheless. It is nonetheless offering vitality that our physique makes use of. You discover, am I saying that we have now to be consuming a ton of sugar? No, nonetheless sugar should not be as scary as we make it. So it is, it is how we phrase factors. And likewise we have now now now to know we rely on in such black and white, um, in, within the case of like vitamin, I am noticing it is merely black and white.
There isn’t any room for nuance, there is no grey home. And I do know on social media, um, it’s terribly exhausting. Like, I don’t know what number of characters you is perhaps allowed on Instagram. Not pretty a bit, right? So it, there’s solely heaps we’re able to say, even in an article, there’s solely heaps you in all probability can say. Um, nonetheless there’s not quite a lot of nuance, you already know, so we’re not saying that like a salad and a Twinkie is a similar challenge.
However what we’re saying is that the Twinkie does not must be demonized. Usually it is okay to eat meals that you just merely benefit from. We’re not saying that it is essential to be consuming it at each meal each single day, nevertheless it completely’s not this horrible meals that is going to set off, you already know, all these sicknesses, um, everytime you’ve purchased it normally.
So yeah, that is, that is type of, that is type of the intention. , yeah. Yeah.
Jess: Wendy, are you. Wendy, oh, your video went away and we can’t actually hear you. Um, I am gonna leap into the, no, we can’t. . I actually really feel it is your web. Oh, no. Do you wanna log off and log as soon as extra in?
We won’t hear you or see you. . Um, merely all through the sake of time, I am gonna protect going. . Oh, certain. Okay. Um, cuz we have now now now quite a lot of questions and we’re already midway by. So what, and simply Josh, you in all probability can edit this. Query or this, uh, diploma out. However Shauna, in order quickly as I ask questions, I am not saying that I agree with these.
I am merely asking what individuals must know. Oh, yeah. Course. Do not a
Shana: fundamental bitch.
Jess: So is there a steadiness in truth of to not course of that you just merely counsel or like terribly course of, equivalent to the Twinkies as an illustration, you usually hear individuals say like, oh, I observe the 80 20 rule. And even as soon as extra all through the day as quickly as I was a dietician, I used to debate that like mm-hmm 80% is like full meals and updated after which 20% is gratifying meals or no matter.
Like is that nonsense? What are
Shana: your ideas? I nonetheless suppose which is able to even. Type of all through the load discount plan tea realm. Like, I get why we’re saying that. Um, it is, it is type of, it is bigger than, you already know, type of equivalent to the clear consuming form of, uh, rhetoric that is, you already know, form of roaming spherical. However even, even saying one issue for me personally, right?
I am not saying it is right or unsuitable, it is merely my private views. Like I am, I am not even a fan of claiming, the entire objects rigorously or like moderation, um, on account of it nonetheless sounds. , these are dangerous meals. Mm-hmm. . And I do not like as quickly as we put meals on a hierarchy on account of there’s heaps that goes into why we select meals.
Yeah. And optimistic, it is various, nevertheless furthermore like correct proper right here I’m going with my public successfully being background, right? Like we there. The rationale we select meals is what we have now now now entry to, each in proximity to retailers, nevertheless furthermore meals insecurity furthermore. Um, what we have now now now entry to financially. preferences, all of that stuff is why we select the meals we do.
So even telling anybody, correctly, like, optimistic, you in all probability can have it, nonetheless rigorously that is possibly the one challenge anybody has entry to. So it is nonetheless, it is nonetheless is perhaps very heaps requiring nuance as quickly as we’re speaking about what anybody must be consuming. Um, and as quickly as further, that is exhausting to do. Over a put up and even, you already know, cuz everybody’s specific particular person so
Right. You discover, that is the important issue. Yeah. ,
Jess: that is the difficulty. It is like, I actually really feel dieticians, it is only a bit robust on account of we attempt to um, you already know, not give too many blanket statements cuz everybody is aware of that it is specific particular person nonetheless then that does not
Shana: promote . So it is like Precisely,
Wendy: precisely. That is the explanation
Jess: it is form of like quite a lot of the.
Influencers who do vitamin, they, they blow up like loopy on account of, , they’ve a message that sells. And it is, it is nearly like eat like me, eat like me and appear to be me. However everybody is aware of that that is not the case. That is
Shana: problematic. Yeah, it is problematic. Precisely. .
Jess: Um, now okay. You usually hear on Instagram, I am going with the entire objects that is on Instagram , so.
Constructive. Yeah. Inside the event you, when you may’t pronounce the climate, it is dangerous.
Shana: Oh gosh. Yeah. What are your ideas? ? I, that is so annoying too, to. It is like, and it is so, it is so humorous. Be, correctly it is not seemingly humorous, nonetheless I like, I used to suppose that means too. Um, oh, me too. Due to as quickly as I was in class, right? Yeah. Like, um, turning proper right into a dietician.
I take into consideration as quickly as I was, uh, like part-time and I actually really feel I used to be like educating, you already know, youthful kids vitamin lessons and that is like one in every of many who’s one in every of many factors I educated them. I used to be like, are you able to pronounce it then do not.
Wendy: Uh,
Jess: sorry to everybody who we have now now ever acknowledged that to. It is a public apology.
Shana: So severely, cuz I am very similar to, oh my god.
A form of kids, inside the event that they ever noticed my Instagram now, they’d be like, miss Shauna . I take into consideration if you acknowledged so, nonetheless in any case, I digress. Um, so not a fan of that now, um, on account of now I’ve flip into wiser, right? Due to quite a lot of. These factors that we can’t pronounce are dietary dietary nutritional vitamins and minerals which are spelled out of their chemical decide and kind.
And so it is, it is so humorous on account of I am an infinite fan of meals science babe. Um, Erin, yeah. And she or he, she goes by this repeatedly, and it is so humorous on account of she, she’s courageous ample to do that. I. You discover, I do not, uh, decide aside individuals’s posts cuz I am too scared. However I like that she does, um, on account of she at all times reveals, okay, this specific particular person is demonizing.
I don’t know, some, I am unable to even ponder a fame off the most effective of my head, nonetheless she’ll like, Say what this specific particular person is demonizing and she or he’s like, um, truly that is like vitamin E . It is merely spelled out right. Or one issue. Yeah. Or one issue like that. And it is like, oh my gosh. You discover? It is merely that we do not suppose like that.
We merely, we wish one issue cleaner. Yeah. And I actually really feel this, this maybe will seemingly be like a complete nother episode, nevertheless it completely type of furthermore goes into this complete like clear consuming type of means. Much like the cleaner elements, the higher, which is elitist and. Kind of supremacy, nonetheless we’d not must go there. However primarily that is type of the place it stems from.
Like lesser is additional, um, I am consuming clear. I, I am consuming factors I can pronounce, and it is like, correctly, for people who take a look at the chemical compounds in a banana, right? Even when it is pure, it is like all of these items or these names we can’t pronounce. In order that’s why I, I do not counsel. Following that tactic ever as quickly as further. And I apologize to these youngsters that I that I taught years beforehand.
Yeah. .
Jess: No, nonetheless I actually really feel it is, it is useful to evolve, right? I actually really feel it is all about everytime you already know bigger, you do bigger. And, um, you already know, we, I truly actually really feel equivalent to the customized, the die customized is so sturdy and as well as you get sucked up in it. After which everytime you see clear clearly, it is like, oh my God, it is embarrassing. What have I accomplished?
Shana: and
Jess: furthermore, And likewise merely, you already know, equal to you, you would probably have an unbelievable platform that’s speaking about all these items now, and that’s reaching, you already know, additional individuals and setting the report straight. So I truly actually really feel I will totally, totally relate to, um, to solely switching gears. . Mm-hmm. . Sure. Um, side observe, all people who’s questioning the place Wendy is, for people who had been pondering that her web went out.
So we’re ready for her web to return as soon as extra and be a part of us, nonetheless all through the meantime, I am gonna protect going. , . Um, okay, so one totally different query we acquired is, um, oh, correct proper right here she is. There we go. Oh
Wendy: my God, you guys, my web went out. So I am on my cellphone. Uh, so merely, I can’t have the ability to see any preserve notes by Google Dots. I don’t know what the hell merely occurred, nonetheless I’ve no web.
Oh, no.
Shana: Yeah, .
Jess: Dang. Oh God. Don’t fret. We, we saved going. You saved going. Okay. I educated everybody that you just merely, your web was out. Wendy’s as soon as extra,
Wendy: all people. I am as soon as extra. Oh my gosh. Are you recording? Uh, I am nonetheless recording. Yeah. Um, okay. So the place are we? . Oh my God. So
Jess: we’re, um, we’re at, uh, I am merely gonna ask the following one.
Oh my God,
Wendy: I am as soon as extra leaping after. Choose them as soon as extra. Um, Accurately, yo, what’s going on on? I am as soon as extra. Okay. Let me merely be a part of by my laptop then, or no matter. We, we’ll merely protect doing it correct proper right here. Um, I’d merely say protect
Jess: it like this. Yeah. Set off we’d not have a
Wendy: lot of time. Right, right, right. Okay. The place, the place are we?
What had been you guys speaking about? So
Jess: I will, I will do the following one which you would probably leap in after. Okay. Um, yeah, so we’re on the canned boots, uh, oh, wait, no, sorry. We’re on the chem. No, we already requested the chemical compounds one. The chemical compounds. Okay. Um, . Did I ask the chemical? Accurately, it is form of equivalent to the
Shana: anyone. One, you in all probability can’t pronounce the meals.
You in all probability can’t.
Jess: Yeah. That is form of comparable, right? Um, the chemical compounds. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Okay. So various of us fear about canned meals. Mm-hmm. , right? Due to canned meals get a nasty rap. However you say , that there is a place for canned meals in your plate. Mm-hmm. , why? What’s your case for canned meals? Like why should individuals.
Be additional snug with them after which furthermore observe as rather a lot as that. What about people who uncover themselves involved about sodium? One factor there?
Shana: Sure. Um, and I at all times say, as quickly as further, it is various, right? It comes all the easiest way proper right down to, um, canned meals are merely additional shelf protected. They remaining further. Um, I’ve a habits of forgetting. greens and produce all through the fridge or all through the pantry.
Um, so canned meals, frozen meals, in actuality, nonetheless canned meals are positively shelf protected. Um, they’re furthermore further economical. Um, as quickly as further, like as all people is conscious of, the worth of meals lately is rising, rising, rising. Um, so it is quite a lot of people are merely within the hunt for factors to be cheaper. Um, nevertheless furthermore you wanna get dietary nutritional vitamins.
And the difficulty with canned meals, or I have to even like canned greens, right? It is nonetheless offering you with a similar dietary nutritional vitamins as say, a updated, uh, like if we’re doing like inexperienced beans, as an illustration, you is perhaps nonetheless getting dietary nutritional vitamins from the canned meals. And optimistic, sodium. can positively be a priority. It’s a concern. I at all times counsel rinsing off that reply cuz most canned meals are in that reply.
Um, and chances are high you may rinse ‘em off. Even beans as an illustration. I at all times advocate doing that. If sodium is a priority, merely rinse them off and they also’re good to go. Um, even with canned fruit, cuz quite a lot of occasions they’re in, um, you in all probability can select between like 100% fruit juice or like, uh, a syrup. . If, um, everytime you’ve purchased a variety, I at all times counsel the juice.
Um, nonetheless an equivalent challenge, you in all probability can merely rinse factors off. And if that could be a priority, it is a respectable concern for certain. However there’s nonetheless decisions. Um, it doesn’t suggest that it is a scary challenge sort sensible, optimistic, it must be totally fully totally different from say updated. Um, produce for certain. And everytime you’ve purchased entry to updated, you want updated, by all means affiliate with updated.
This, this is not saying to not, nonetheless for some individuals, as quickly as further, that is all that they might have entry to, notably price-wise. Entry sensible. Loads of occasions if you go to meals pantries, soup kitchens, that is all they’re offering you with’re the canned meals, cuz they need one issue shelf protected and non-perishable, which is essential.
So it isn’t saying, oh, these people are getting quote unquote dangerous meals. It is merely, that is what shelfs, that is what is shelf protected. It is, it is nonetheless offering nutri. . Yeah. And likewise like who
Wendy: desires to rearrange dinner beans from scratch? I counsel, some individuals, my mother does, nevertheless it completely’s simpler. Yeah. I do not mm-hmm. , um, , nope.
Shana: Takes heaps time.
Precisely.
Wendy: Yeah. It merely does not make any sense With the Insta Pot, I suppose I merely acquired an INTA pot and now I am like, wow. Good. My world has been open to quite a lot of factors, nonetheless um, yeah. If it weren’t for that, I do not even suppose I’d entertain the thought. with the chemical compounds. Merely exact fast, neith, did you guys focus on like specific chemical compounds?
Um, or what, what precisely
Shana: was the dialog about chemical compounds about?
Wendy: you is perhaps slicing out.
Jess: Oh God. Um, are you in your cellphone or?
Wendy: Yeah, I am on my cellphone cuz the wifi say that. Oh. Oh
Jess: no. So we merely talked concerning the thought of like, correctly, we’re able to listen to you. We won’t see you. It was slicing
Shana: out, nonetheless, oh, in all probability to not the video. Yeah.
Jess: Yeah. Possibly flip the video off. Um, we had been speaking about equivalent to the, when you may’t pronounce it, it is dangerous.
Mm-hmm. and like, you already know, optimistic factors, um, .
Shana: Okay. Being
Jess: like dietary dietary nutritional vitamins, names and factors like that.
Wendy: Acquired it. Mm-hmm. . I used to be gonna ask you Shauna notably, cuz I do know there’s like, there’s concern spherical like gums notably. And I do know one ingredient that various of us ask us about
Shana: is
Wendy: the Carin. I do not even know if I am saying that right, nevertheless it completely’s in quite a lot of the plant milks.
Um, have you ever ever learnt one factor about this? Due to if not, we may merely skip it. .
Shana: I, I do not, I at all times, I at all times inform individuals to strive, cuz you already know who at all times writes about that? I, I’ve already talked about Erin, uh, meals Science babe. Mm-hmm. . Um, and there could also be one totally different specific particular person on TikTok, I overlook her address, nonetheless she’s one totally different meals scientist that like breaks it down very successfully.
Mm-hmm. . Um, simply because they’ve a technique of wording factors that I’m unable to specific, cuz that is not. Precisely. Okay. No, it isn’t my subject. However yeah, I at all times inform individuals, um, to really merely observe the meals scientists on account of that is, that is their work, you already know? Yeah. Like we observe, and I, I forgot to say this earlier than, nonetheless I actually really feel individuals.
are so that liable to following people who look a optimistic means, a optimistic physique aesthetic, and it is vitally easy to solely say, oh my gosh, that is scary. You discover, you would probably have individuals roaming the grocery retailer, and that is merely me ranting, like you would probably have individuals strolling spherical a grocery retailer pointing to random meals, calling them dangerous, and it is very similar to, That is possibly all anybody has entry to and that does not make the meals not nutritious.
And as a rule assured they will return they usually even have some product that they are promoting and it is some powder. Yeah. And I am like, your powder that you just merely’re promoting is very processed. And it furthermore has all these gums and preservatives in it to make it shelf protected. Right. However it’s like, you already know, so anyway, that was a rant, nonetheless , I am, yeah,
Jess: no, I am laughing.
I am laughing on account of my mother merely despatched me a sort of individuals, um, that the
Wendy: meals babe, um,
Shana: oh gosh.
Wendy: Yeah. Talks about
Jess: in, I am not gonna say his decide, nevertheless it completely’s some random. White man and he, and the difficulty she despatched me, right , it was like prime 10 faux meals you is perhaps consuming and the best strategy to avoid them. My mother despatched it with no clarification and I acknowledged, mother, I do not like this man.
She acknowledged, oh actually? Okay, . And I acknowledged, he is concern mon. I am discovering out the textual content material materials. I am like, he is concern mongering based mostly completely on no proof. Search for meals science babe. .
Shana: Sure. She was like, okay. Sure, optimistic, precisely. Precisely. That is
Jess: humorous. So optimistic, meals science, babe. And we requested on our
Wendy: podcast, please come on. Right. That
Shana: is perhaps a vital episode.
Oh, which is able to
Wendy: be such a vital episode. Yeah. Yeah. So let’s focus on frozen meals. Um, I truly actually really feel like canned meals normally get a worse rep than frozen. However frozen, I actually really feel the jury’s nonetheless out. So what are your ideas? Is it a great way to, you already know, incorporate. Extra plant meals, notably these which are, you already know, extra sturdy to get in optimistic neighborhoods or actually
Shana: costly.
Positively, I actually really feel frozen meals for certain are the extra accepted processed meals. Um, and likewise you already know, cuz. We at all times wish to say, oh, it is picked at like peak ripeness. And so, you already know, frozen meals in some methods are like, you already know, now people are like, oh, they’re truly superior than updated, which I do not even like cuz there’s not a superior.
It is what you would probably have entry to. However optimistic, frozen, excuse me, frozen are completely glorious to make the most of. Um, and as quickly as further, furthermore, , they remaining higher than updated. Um, you already know, uh, all through the freezer. However one challenge that I’ll say is frozen nonetheless requires, um, if we’re like digging only a bit bit deeper so far as like what you would probably have entry to, frozen nonetheless requires a bit additional then cannot, and canned, I already talked about an equivalent nonetheless offering dietary nutritional vitamins, nonetheless canned meals, like there’s some individuals, as quickly as we suppose.
Entry and we take into accounts anybody getting a meal on the desk. We’ve got now now to first suppose, does this specific particular person have an expansion? Have they purchased entry to love their, you already know, gasoline range or no matter, electrical range, no matter, um, canned meals. You in all probability can eat it from the can, like is it going to be. Nice tasty to some individuals or a various?
No, nonetheless that is the target of it being in a can. Um, as quickly as we take into accounts pure disasters and, you already know, {{the electrical}} energy going out and all that good points, or not good points. Sorry, all that stuff occurring, , it is like canned meals. You in all probability can eat it from. Straight from the can and as well as you might be getting nourishment. Um, as quickly as further, am I saying that it is tremendous tasty to eat one issue at room temperature?
No, nonetheless that is the whole diploma of canned meals. That is the explanation it is shelf protected frozen meals. Nonetheless require freezer. Um, some individuals haven’t purchased entry to that. And I actually really feel some individuals, you already know, it is simple if you’re form of removed from optimistic circumstances everytime you already know it is simple, notably in higher cities to solely assume everybody has entry to meals.
You discover, oh, I preserve in New York, I can merely stroll down the road, not far and huge. In New York, you’ll do that. So it is, it is tremendous essential to know, as quickly as further, we at all times must suppose within the case of entry and proximity. , um, to factors, nonetheless to your, to your precise query, optimistic. Frozen meals are glorious. . Yeah. Yeah,
Wendy: yeah.
I furthermore suppose it, you already know, normally we have now now now to make the most of only a bit little little little bit of frequent sense. I hate to sound like that individual particular person, nonetheless like, you already know, like some individuals have beef with like frozen meals, nonetheless then they’re okay with. Frozen fruit and veggies. Um, you already know, and I actually really feel notably now with like, there is a fairly good fluctuate of frozen meals.
I do know that earlier than, like they beautiful heaps all sucked and like it isn’t one issue Yeah, I’d’ve had, nonetheless. Yeah, I truly actually really feel like notably with Vendor Joe’s, like for people who’re capable of entry that, oh optimistic. Like there’s truly frozen meals that sort good and provide, like fairly balanced vitamin. Um, nonetheless mm-hmm.
they’re nonetheless someway demonized, um, on account of they have been cooked after which frozen and, and it is very similar to, ha, this
Shana: should not be actually along with up. , it isn’t. And there could also be furthermore like a hierarchy of frozen meals, . Set off like every Vendor Joe’s is like, oh, it is cool and accepted to be shopping for at Vendor Joe’s. However equivalent to the frozen meals, you already know, that we get like, what’s that?
What was the one, um, was it Stouffers or one issue like that? Yeah. It is like, oh, these are so dangerous for you. However these self related people are like trying to find Vendor Joe’s. It is like, oh. Frozen is frozen. , it is all concerning the branding
Wendy: too, right? Due to like even how factors, optimistic. The packaging look visually, like whether or not it’s wanting additional stylish and updated, people are gonna truly actually really feel, um mm-hmm.
you already know, only a bit additional assured trying to find these factors. And I’ve, I’ve positively fallen prey to that with like their physique stuff. , I counsel, I like, I like their. Stuff and like their hair stuff. However like if, if
Shana: the packaging
Wendy: is cool, I’ll in all probability be additional drawn to it and like, it is possibly trash, it is possibly like truly the equal of like, I don’t know, v like no matter, you already know, no matter.
Much like the native pharmacy has like a decreased model, nonetheless I’ll in all probability be like, Ooh, it appears cute, so let me strive it and let me spend like $10 additional. Yeah.
Shana: Mm-hmm. selling. Yeah, for
Jess: certain. And all selling. Mm-hmm. not 100% I’d say, nonetheless I truly actually really feel. 99 . Yeah. You discover, set off I, there is also distinction to optimistic, whether or not or not or not it is meals or whether or not or not or not it is, um, set off I am pondering of like hair care sort stuff.
However I truly actually really feel Hiya?
Shana: As quickly as I’m correct proper right here.
Jess: Oh, are you? Is anybody like urgent
Wendy: buttons? No, I am sorry.
Jess: Ignore. Oh, it sounds equivalent to the microwave or one issue. . Um, , Josh, can we edit that out? Okay. Uh, let’s check out.
Wendy: Oh my god, I am sorry. I dunno what is going on on on. ? .
Shana: Now I hear it. You placing on the microwave like what is going on on
Wendy: on? Wow.
Um, there’s pretty a bit occur
Shana: the start. Okay, so
Jess: we had been speaking about frozen meals, and that is our final query earlier than we get into our sport. Mm-hmm. . Um, nonetheless are there any dietary nutritional vitamins individuals should look out for, as an illustration? , um, carbs, fat, protein, or like, is there one factor you form of counsel is a go-to If anybody’s like, as an illustration they’ve entry and so they should buy the frozen meal that they need mm-hmm.
and that is alleged to be like a meal meal. Like what should they search for
Shana: nutrient sensible? Yeah. I actually really feel, um, a terrific, and even like, uh, good. I, I suppose I’d say steadiness. Meal, right? Due to all of these factors are essential for our our our our bodies. Protein, carbs, fats, we want all of it. And I actually really feel that even one issue that has, um, fiber, I actually really feel like, um, not, and I do know that this won’t be each meal or each meals, nonetheless you already know, I at all times inform individuals like, notably search for the colourful greens, right?
Due to as quickly as further, pondering within the case of really being a dietician, we wish you to eat. , all that stuff. Um, it is offering dietary dietary nutritional vitamins, minerals, nonetheless actually merely making sure you is perhaps getting in ample protein, you is perhaps getting in ample carbs, right. Considerably fiber, um, even fat, like, um, correctly this was as soon as extra all through the day now, not heaps, nonetheless, um, individuals normally are afraid of fats.
Um, in addition to it is from an avocado, nonetheless like we want fats , you already know? So I actually really feel it is vital to type of take a look at the entire image too. and see what your full meal is consisting of. Um, and I actually really feel that is, that is type of the intention, um, each time we’re consuming is to hunt for that steadiness.
Jess: For certain. Yeah. That is good.
So this 10 observe sport we have now now now Sure. Time for sport. Yay, Josh. Cue the sport. Music,
Wendy: you
All right, so we’re gonna merely throw out totally fully totally different. Meals and chances are high you may inform us shortly. It is a fireplace spherical, so that you just in all probability can’t actually take quite a few seconds. Um, the easiest way you might be gonna add that to a nourishing meal?
Shana: Are you prepared? Okay. I actually really feel so. My goodness. Okay. Okay.
Wendy: canned piece. .
Shana: Oh, okay. Accurately, in my security, I am allergic to cheese , nonetheless I’d say, I’d say stir fry.
If I wasn’t, I’d say stir fry . Okay. Okay. Okay. That might be a pleasant one. good. You most likely did good. Ca canned peaches. . Oh, yogurt. I like, um, canned peaches with yogurt. Um, my absolute favourite. Mm-hmm. . Um, I don’t know. I equivalent to the kind of canned peaches, . I do realize it sounds bizarre, nonetheless I had them too. No, they’re so good. That seems like a vital, with some like crunchy granola.
Um, anyway, optimistic, I like that concept. Leon Texture, frozen cauli flour. smoothies. Oh yeah. Um, and I discovered this from Clara, your dietician bff. So I I noticed her do it. And it does not add like sort to smoothies, nevertheless it completely makes it, um, the feel like easy. And as well as you might be furthermore getting all through the fiber. And it isn’t, and equivalent to the sort, equal to you aren’t, um, uh, the sort should not be like being obscured.
Uh, with cauliflower. It is form of like spinach if you add it to smoothies. So I like, I like so as in order so as to add it in smoothies, so love that. Sport changer. I’ve some
Jess: frozen of cauliflower that I am gonna add. Yeah. Um. Okay. What a few bag salad? You discover, they promote these bag salads, nonetheless they will not be ample for a meal.
Shana: Oh, optimistic. I like, okay. I’ve like 5 in my fridge right now. So what I , so what I add are I’ve cans of tuna, tuna fish. Um, normally I merely, uh, use that merely along with some seasoning. Um, I, I normally add like a lemon pepper. type of seasoning, um, like olive oil, add it to the bag salad furthermore, um, if it does not already embody like dried fruit or nuts, chances are high you may as successfully add that to finish it out.
Um, furthermore I am an infinite fan of getting rotisserie chickens, equivalent to the pre-cooked ones. Mm-hmm. and simply having that all through the fridge for the. , these are furthermore quite simple to chop up and add to salads, getting in protein. So these salads are the suitable factors ever on account of I, I’ll admit, I am not an infinite fan of cooking, um, or chopping or dicing, like
I can do it, nonetheless I’d select to make it simpler. So like I’ve a bunch in my fridge and that is, that is what I do. Okay.
Wendy: Tortilla. .
Shana: Ooh. Um, I’d say beans, canned beans, um, and simply having like a protein, um, uh, with some cheese. I actually really feel that could be a pleasant, in reality, that is form of a terrific meal normally. Uh, salsa, like a jar salsa.
Jess: I am correct proper right here for all these like tremendous fast meals.
Shana: Yeah, I am, hear, I am the queen of processed meals. . .
Jess: Ooh, episode title. Um, .
Shana: It is best to change your, I remorse saying that I remorse , right? The trolls or not. Gonna come after
Wendy: you. Right? Right.
Jess: That is such, you need to take into accounts this gold. Oh God. Why cannot you merely be for who you is perhaps for?
And all people else can kick rocks and observe who you wanna observe, please. It is like not that essential,
Shana: Lord. It is okay. Oatmeal packets. O wait, oat milk packets. Oat
Jess: oatmeal packets,
Shana: like specific particular person oatmeal. Oh, okay. Sure. I used to be like, what are oat milk packets? Um, oat oatmeal packets. Sure. So , so I, I truly do that fairly a bit as quickly as I’ll the workplace, so I at all times have like a transportable.
Uh, Mason Jar. It is tremendous simple to pour the packet. I furthermore protect dried fruit at my desk together with nuts. Um, so for people who furthermore work in an workplace the place you would probably have entry to a microwave, tremendous simple so as in order so as to add to it. Um, I am not giant on the flavors. I wish to, I wish to make my very private, nonetheless if you’re tremendous rushed on time, you.
Furthermore use these with the flavors. I purchase the flavorless ones and simply add to it. Um, so nuts, dried fruits. Um, I even have like only a bit challenge of honey at my desk. I’ve like a complete challenge at my desk, select it’s . I’ve like all these totally fully totally different meals. I even have like a, um, they acquired. So, yeah, like a nook retailer.
I am like ready. Yeah. Little mini bodega. .
Jess: Yeah. The place I would love, I really would buy groceries on my lunch break for the week and almost merely carry all of it to work. And replenish the work fridge? Sure. Like all through the freezer. Set off I’d purchase all this, the entire objects you is perhaps saying, equivalent to the frozen meals and simply be like, poop.
Yeah. Good.
Shana: It is frozen
Wendy: pizza, which by the best means, for these of you who haven’t purchased various of us at house and purchase a pie of pizza, and also you is perhaps like, what am I gonna do with all these pizza? Due to earlier than I’d merely truly actually really feel pressured to eat all of it, after which I would not going actually really feel so good the following day. You might in all probability freeze it and.
It truly tastes glorious. I merely began freezing, like merely, you already know, New York Metropolis pizza and I used to be only a bit hesitant, nonetheless then I reheated it and I used to be like, oh my God. Like that is, that is it right correct proper right here. Anyway, side observe. So frozen
Shana: pizza. . Yeah, no, an equivalent. All of that. Um, and I, I wish to with my stash of pre-bagged salads.
I will every have salad on the side or, um, no matter veggies, like if I do normally have my produce right, I at all times have leftovers of, as an illustration if I make an infinite batch of Brussels sprouts. Relying on the sort. Uh, like normally I merely put it on factors or like in pastas, nonetheless I put it on prime of the pizza, warmth it up and it’s very glorious.
Um, peppers, furthermore peppers which are, you already know, getting wrinkly. That is furthermore an environment friendly method to form of cube them up, put them on pizza.
Jess: Scrumptious. I like that. Mm-hmm. . Okay, final one. Canned soup. .
Shana: Ooh. So what I love to do is , I wish to get, and I normally have, um, from every takeout or normally as quickly as further, like Vendor Joe’s or any grocery retailer has like frozen rice, um, like already made, that means you merely pop into the microwave.
I like so as in order so as to add rice to my. Um, and in addition to as quickly as further with like my rotisserie hen, relying on the soup in actuality, nonetheless chances are high you may make it full by like along with in some type of protein. Um, so I normally add in like rice hen. Um, as quickly as further, like if there are leftover veggies all through the fridge, I merely pop these in and it’s type of a pleasant hearty, like full meal.
Um, so that is what I love to do. It depends upon upon the soup for certain, nevertheless it completely, it normally works as a rule. ,
Jess: no, these are all such good concepts and it merely gave me the concept for anybody who desires them multi function place, on account of I am certain people are listening and driving and you are not gonna re take into consideration Precisely.
Merely DM us. Um, processed, processed meals. No, merely processed the phrase. Processed . And I will ship you. , I will sort out her concepts and ship them as soon as extra to you. So, ah, optimistic. DMS course of. Um, and in wrapping Shauna, this was such a vital dialog. Thanks. I discovered pretty a bit. I am gonna be trying quite a lot of your concepts. Um, are you able to let our listeners know the place they will uncover your unbelievable work on-line and the easiest way you might be employed with individuals?
If.
Shana: positively. Um, so my address for almost each , each social media is the vitamin tea. Um, fairly simple to hunt out that means. Um, Instagram, Twitter, searching for out TikTok, I will, all of that. Yeah. , . Um, and in addition to my web site. So I, I do kind out purchasers. Um, I am at a pause right now merely with work, nonetheless you in all probability can at all times uncover any data on my web site, the vitamin tea.
Um, so yeah, that is the place you would probably uncover me.